Skillz & Thrillz: Alberta's Trade & Tech Youth

Manufacturing the Future: Tim Wong on Competition, Teaching the Trade & Skills

• Skills Canada Alberta • Episode 10

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In this episode, we sit down with Tim Wong, whose Skills journey began in high school and continued into post-secondary. In 2016, he competed at the Provincial Skills Canada Competition, placing 1st and earning a spot on Team Alberta. He went on to represent Alberta at the Skills Canada National Competition in New Brunswick. 

Tim’s dedication to Skills didn’t stop there. In 2023, he was named Alumni of the Year for his contributions to the Skills community and through his role on the Provincial Technical Committee (PTC) for Precision and CNC Machining, where he helps shape the competition at Provincials each year. He’s also an instructor at SAIT, where he not only trains apprentices but also finds inspiration in learning from his students.

Join us as Tim reflects on how one-on-one training at SAIT prepared him for competition, how Skills shaped his path, and why mentoring future machinists has been so rewarding. Listen now, and don’t forget to check out his Alumni of the Year video on our website or YouTube to learn more about his incredible journey! 

SPEAKER_00:

Welcome to Skills and Thrills, Alberta's Trade and Tech Youth Podcast by Skills Canada, Alberta. We feature the stories of skills alumni through sharing their competition experiences and how those moments shape their careers. Through casual, unscripted conversations. We explore the journeys behind the skills and the paths that followed. I'm Danny and I'll be your host. Let's dive into today's episode. Today we are chatting with Tim Wong. Tim placed first at Provincials in 2016 in Precision Machining and went on to nationals that same year in New Brunswick. Tim is also the 2023 Alumni of the Year and is a part of the Provincial Technical Committee. Hi, Tim. Thank you for coming on the podcast with me today.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey. It's great to be here.

SPEAKER_00:

How are you doing?

SPEAKER_01:

Good. Good. I have a group of first-year apprentices right now. And uh yeah. How about yourself?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm doing good. That sounds fun. So how's that going?

SPEAKER_01:

It's good. I teach at SAIT and I have uh a group of first-year machinist apprentices that are coming through, and I have them for shop and theory class and just kind of, you know, foundational skills. So it's really good to see.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that's awesome. Do you mind kind of starting out with telling us how you got into precision machining?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So the precision machining, so the machining trade. So there's two competition at skills. So there's the CNC category and there's the precision. Usually what we see is the the post-secondary is more so on the CNC side and kind of high school and then post-secondary as well as precision. And precision is just is is manual machining. So it's turning the dials on machines to make the machine move. And CNC is programming, essentially a computer that that controls the machine. So how I got started, I did the registered apprenticeship program through my high school. I was working as a machinist apprentice in industry and then going to high school at the same time. And while I was at high school, my high school construction teacher said, Hey, you know, there's a machining category that you should look into competing at. And that's what happened. So then I registered through him and ended up competing in high school. And then that continued on when I went to state for post-secondary.

SPEAKER_00:

That's awesome. Do you mind taking us through the competitions for you and how they were and how you prepared for them?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So the high school one, that was a really good experience. I had lots of fun. Uh, I got dead last. So I was definitely uh not prepared for that. And it was just, you know, I kind of went into the competition, you know, just working as an as an apprentice. So some of the the guys around the shop just kind of showed me a couple things here or there and were like, okay, go have fun. One of the guys I worked with won nationals uh when he was an apprentice. So he was able to give me a bit more perspective when I competed in high school, was kind of just like, go have fun, choose what to expect. I ended up getting dead dead last, but I had a lot of fun. Just going up there and seeing all the competitions. That kind of got me really excited about competing in skills again. So I then came to SAIT for my apprenticeship training, and then I got connected with the two instructors who were in charge of um coaching and recruiting competitors. I had a little bit more practice. I came to SAIT and did some practice with one of the instructors, and they gave me some more help. And then again, the colleague at work that I had who had competed really kind of helped me out. And that's how I competed, I think was the next year or the year after I might have taken a year off. And then I ended up winning provincials and got to compete at nationals in New Brunswick.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, awesome. The New Brunswick one, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

What was it like being a part of Team A B? It was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, being proud to be a tradesperson in Alberta was awesome. And to meet different skilled trades from across the province. So it wasn't people just in Calgary. I ended up becoming friends with some electricians and some sheet metal guys. And we still stay in touch and check in on each other every once in a while. I have, you know, had some friendships that started from competing at skills, and just to be proud from Alberta and represent the province was awesome.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's a really cool community to become friends with people from all different kinds of trades and technology areas. Such a cool experience. Definitely, yeah. Yeah. And going back to the first competition, like not going so well, it's interesting to see how people will do the first competition and be like, oh, this is what it's about. And they then they know how to like prepare and train for it. Yeah, exactly. You could be going against someone who's done it for like four years.

SPEAKER_01:

That's what happened. I was I was in grade 12, I think the first time I I competed, and there was people who were there since grade 10. So they were this was the third year of competing.

SPEAKER_00:

Did you learn anything significant from that first competition that really helped you prepare for the next one?

SPEAKER_01:

I think what I learned is just how to be more efficient because I would just look at the drawing and I didn't know where to start. And then the second year, you know what you're looking for. Okay, I can score points here. I'm gonna focus time on here, and this isn't worth many points, so I'm not gonna spend too much time worrying about that. Which is kind of helping with the strategy of how to machine apart to get the most amount of points. And then also it's kind of like the first time you're competing, there's people walking around, and it's a little bit intimidating. The second time you have a better idea. There's gonna be a lot of people around, there's gonna be people running behind you, and just to kind of uh stay focused on on what you're working on.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's definitely a different environment from like your normal work, right? So something to get used to.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I might only have one or two people standing over my shoulder watching what you're doing, and then there's a couple hundred or thousands walking by at different points.

SPEAKER_00:

Provincials is wild. There's just so many students going around watching you compete and stuff or doing tri trades near the competition and stuff too. So yeah, it's definitely interesting, but so fun. Like what a cool atmosphere.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00:

For people who are thinking about competing in this trade area, do you mind taking us through how the competition is different provincially versus nationally or regionally versus provincially?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so there isn't regionals for the machining uh competition, it just goes straight to provincials. I competed in precision machining, but I'm on the committee for CNC machining. It's pretty much the same committee. So we work very closely together. The competition is is very, very similar in terms of you have you have two different machines that you work on. One competition day you're on one machine, the other competition day you're on the other machine. That's the same both at provincials and at nationals. And then the only thing that's really different is the part that you're making. At provincials, we just make a cube that has a bunch of different features in it. But at nationals in New Brunswick, the project looked like a lobster trap. So they kind of had a lobster trappy look to it. The part was different, and that's the only thing, really. The machines are the same, the tools that you have are the same. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Do you have any advice for how someone might prepare for this competition?

SPEAKER_01:

What I tell, like, I coach students and I just tell them to go and have fun. That's the most important thing I think is just going and enjoying the time. If you get last and you have fun, then I think it's still a good experience. And just spend the time practicing as well because you have a limited amount of time to get your project done. And that time goes a lot quicker in the competition. So if in practice it's taking you an hour to do, it's probably going to take you an hour and a half during the competition just because you're nervous and there's people walking around and it's a new environment. So definitely practice lots and have fun.

SPEAKER_00:

I think just having fun is so important. I feel like people get so wrapped up in their nerves and wanting to meddle and stuff like that. But really, it's just a fun experience for everyone.

SPEAKER_01:

You can put on your resume, you know, I competed at skills, and you don't have to put it if you got dead laughs, because that's what I did. I competed these years, and yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You still had skill and you were a part of skills.

SPEAKER_01:

So yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

Still an alumni because you competed.

SPEAKER_01:

So 100%. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Just a good thing to remember. Don't get wrapped up in the nerves. Absolutely. Yeah, it's just gonna make you very nervous and stressed. Do you have like a favorite memory from your time at Skills competing?

SPEAKER_01:

I think winning provincials was obviously a highlight for me. That's probably, you know, the highlight of my skills comp competing career now that I'm on the other side of things on the committee and to help and coach students. I think I find that to be a lot more rewarding. Like seeing the growth and development in in them is very rewarding for me. I think that's better than winning, in my opinion. But having a student win is phenomenal.

SPEAKER_00:

It's really cool to teach a student all your skills and then to see them succeed. That's such like so cool, so rewarding.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, definitely. And and like, you know, sometimes I have an apprentice compete for the first time when they're 18, and then they compete the three years at their age eligible or four years, and then to be able to see them kind of, you know, their last year competition, they end up winning. I think that's rewarding to see how much they've grown as not only a person, but a tradesperson as well.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, for sure. Because you had mentors too when you were competing. Do you mind talking about your mentors and how they helped you?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So at SAITE, there was uh a gentleman, Gary Lindquist, who's since retired, and he kind of mentored me as an apprentice. And then I was fortunate enough to work with him for a couple of years before he retired as a colleague. And that was a really cool transition. But yeah, he spent a lot of time helping train me, being like, okay, this is what we want to look for. These are the features you should focus on beforehand and give a bit of insight into what to practice. So I think that was really helpful for me. And then I also feel he invested the time in me. I have a responsibility and it's a privilege to pass what he learned that he taught me on to the competitors as well.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I feel like just having a really good mentor who helps guide you and give you their skills is so important. What an amazing experience to learn from someone that's been doing it forever, you know? So yeah. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01:

And then I was able to take his spot on the provincial committee when he decided to retire.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that's awesome. So can you tell us about that and becoming a part of that?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So I competed and then I started teaching at SAIT. The opportunity came up to be on the provincial planning committee. We meet a couple times a year and plan the competition. During the competition in May, we will go kind of set up the area and supervise the students as they compete.

SPEAKER_00:

So, what does that look like for that area of competition to plan for that and organize?

SPEAKER_01:

We're fortunate. Um, Thomas Skinner um sponsors the competition. So they come in, um, they wire up all the machines, they set up all the machines, um, and then we're there after them. So we just kind of set up all the tools, all the measuring tools, make sure the students have everything measuring tools, cutting tools, hand tools that they need to compete. We do the last finishing touches on the machines to get them ready for the competition.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and it's a really cool competition to watch. People listening, if you do go this year, please stop by the precision and CNC machining area, because it is so cool to watch. And I they usually have a tri-trade as well, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, there'll be a tri trade with a mini mail where you can engrave your name or something like that into a workpiece.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's so cool. So make sure you stop by and check that out. And you were recognized as alumni of the year last year, or not last year. 2023.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, 2023. Yeah, yeah, 2023.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. So how is that to be recognized?

SPEAKER_01:

I think that was a huge honor as someone who's competed. I recognize the importance of the skilled trades. It's a huge honor for me and to know I'm friends with some of the previous alumni of the year and to be recognized in that qu category is a huge honor for me. I it feels really good to be honored by an organization that has helped me so much, you know, in my career and learning the trade and making connections. It feels good.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and just being a part of the skills community still and being a part of the PTC, like it's just cool to stay in the community. That's just so much fun to be a part of every year.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, and I think, you know, I've I have friends in other trades now from my time as a competitor, and now I have friends across the province from the PTC, you know, uh in Edmonton, at Nates, working in industry in Edmonton and across the province. It's nice to be able to go somewhere and know someone from skills.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, absolutely. It's it's such a cool experience.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

How did competing in skills impact your career path and personal growth?

SPEAKER_01:

As a career path, I think talking about just putting skills on on a resume, I think, you know, you competed in skills. It just shows that you have commitment to whatever skill area you're you're competing in. So I think that that's a big one for you know, if employers are looking at at two people and one person competed in skills, I think it just shows that you have, you know, you're willing to put the time and and effort into honing your trade or your craft to be better at it. And in terms of just making connections, so when I competed for SAIDE, as an apprentice, I ended up eat meeting my future boss who hired me here and the dean at SAIT as well. So I think it's just you you make so many connections that you wouldn't have as like as a third-year apprentice, I wouldn't be meeting some of the people that I had the opportunity to meet. And that kind of, you know, they recognize you when you apply for a job later on. So I think that making connections is is a big part. And then also it shows that you're really committed to whatever area you're competing in. I've had people when I was working in industry, they said, Hey, I competed in skills and welding, but I'm looking to be a machinist apprentice now. You still know that they're willing to commit to something that they're passionate about, that they will take the extra time and and effort to go the extra mile. So I think that's a big part of it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I think what's really cool, like what you said, is is meeting people in the industry already and then them getting your name and stuff too. So that's that's awesome. Such a cool experience. Yeah. Yeah. Can you tell us about how you got into being an instructor and was it always your goal for your career?

SPEAKER_01:

I think I always hoped I ended up teaching at SAIT. It happened a lot earlier in my career than I thought it would. Again, it's about making connections, and I stayed in touch with some of the instructors I had at SAIT as well as the coach I had at Skills. When I saw a posting come up, I talked to them and said, Hey, I'm a lot earlier in my career than I thought I would be. Do you think this would be something to apply to? And they said, Yeah, yeah, definitely apply. And then so I applied and ended up getting the job. I've been at SAITE now for six years, which is crazy to think. I always really enjoyed training apprentices when I was a journey person. So taking that into the next level at SAIT is been extremely rewarding for me.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it it really sounds amazing to help people learn your trade and everything and then see them compete. Like that's so cool. How does your competition experience influence your teaching style?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I think one thing that I've learned just in competing in the trade that there's there's a thousand ways to do something.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, I I do something one way, another instructor might do it some way, a student might do it a different way. And as long as it's takes about the same amount of time and is is safe, then that's okay. So I I I think I learned that really in skills that you know I approached making something one way, and I can see competitors doing it completely differently. So I think, you know, when when I'm coming to to teach, you know, my way always isn't the best way or the right way. Um, you know, there's other people who can do it just as good, maybe even quicker. So I think it it's about like um, you know, learning, always learning, even if it's learning from, you know, the students, they might say they might look at something a different way and be like, you know, that's actually a good idea. So I think that's really kind of influenced how I teach in in looking at, you know, if we're doing it safely, if we're as efficient, then like you can do it any any way you want. Um, and that maybe I can learn something from looking over at my competitor and they're doing it that way. So maybe I'll incorporate that the next time I compete or the next time I make that part. Um, so I think that's how the competition has really kind of impacted my my teaching. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah, I I like that. It's really cool to learn from your students too, and like their perspective of how they do something, you know, and then like using that to teach different ways to do things and stuff. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. What are some key skills or qualities you emphasize when training future machinists?

SPEAKER_01:

Um, I think one thing important, the the machining trade, I think right now, we're we're at a time where we're seeing so much technology being implemented. Um, so one skill I teach them is to be to to always be learning and to always be looking at what's what's next. So we're seeing um, you know, tons of automation coming into the trade now. So if you're into automation, if you like programming robots, you know, maybe look at at stuff like that. And I think that's that's really important is into never stop learning, you know. Um one thing about the trade is yeah, things are always changing. There's always new technology. So we have different types of cutting tools, you know, there's new ones released every couple months, there's new types of software, um, there's new types of machines. Um, and the trade is so broad and so worldwide that you know, the way that we're doing and making parts in Canada is very different to the way that we're doing it in Europe. So, you know, if you're on YouTube, watch how European machinists are doing stuff and maybe we can we can learn something from them. But yeah, just keep your eyes open, always always be learning and kind of seeing what's what's going on out in other areas, not just what's happening in your shop.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, actually, one of the interesting things from talking with people who've gone to world skills is like how other countries do things because it could be so different, you know?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and and that's and that's I think you know one thing that's really cool about machining is that you know it's a worldwide industry. There's there's people in in Australia, there's people in um in Europe, there's people in North America that are machining, and we're all doing different things, different, we're making different parts for different industries, but we can also take, you know, what we're learning, what other industries are doing, and apply it to what we're doing.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and it's just another way to like really grow your skills too, to see how they're doing stuff. So yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. So how has the field of precision machining or just machining in general evolved since you first started competing or doing this career?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I think um I think what we're seeing is a lot more um of automation being kind of implemented into machining. So um, you know, we're seeing a lot more like ro robotic cells for for manufacturing parts. We're seeing um a lot different of cutting tool technology. So the the tool that cuts the metal, there's all kinds of different um coatings and and new materials that are coming, um, kind of coming to the market. So I think those are the two biggest ones. Um, we're seeing a lot more again, metal 3D printing. So additive manufacturing is is gonna be a big one in the next couple years here. Um so I think those are all things to keep keep an eye on that'll be really cool for the trade.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's really interesting how technology really changes different things. And yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00:

So, what advice would you give to students considering a career machining or even competing in the skills competition?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I think if they're interested in the machine trade, and I think you know, there's it's it's a very high-tech trade. Um there or it doesn't have to be if you're not into that. If you want to be um, so there's precision machining, which is manual machine or the CNC machining. Um, if you're really into to computer programming, um, you can do something in the in the trade. You know, if you're into computers and and programming and and CADCAM software, and that's kind of what you're you're passionate about, you can find a job in machining. If you're into um just turning, you want to have the hands-on work, you want to be turning the dials on the machine, there's a job for you. Um, if if you're into cars, you can be an automotive machinist. If you're into aerospace, you can be an aerospace machinist. So the trade is super um broad. So if you have an area that you're interested in, you can make parts for it. And you know, if we look around us, almost everything um at one point or another is touched by um is touched by a machinist. Um, so you can find if you're passionate about something, you can probably make a part for that passion, and then you can you can have a career path in that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, there's something for everyone really in that trade for sure. So if you're more interested in cars, planes, like you can go either way. So absolutely, yeah. Yeah. Um, for those currently training, what are some tips to sharpen their skills and prepare for the competitions or or even just like furthering their career?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I think um one thing is just always um look around what other people are doing. Don't get outside of, I guess, your your bubble if it's a shop or if it's even state. Um, get out there and talk to other people because they'll have um more efficient ways to to make a part, and that that way you can score more, more um more points. If you do something a little bit differently, a little bit quicker, um and then you can score more points and and do better in the competition.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, for sure. Just like learning new ways to hone your skills and absolutely, yeah. Yeah, just gaining knowledge from other people in the industry as well.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely. And don't just talk to your don't just talk to your coach. So yeah. Um when I was in industry working in industry, I had, you know, I had my coach at SAT who was um Gary was was awesome. It was a huge help. Also talk to the journey people in where you work. Um, you know, they might have tons of ways to do to do things that I might not think about or my my coach might not think about. So yeah, get out there, talk to talk to as many people as you can about how they would um approach a part or a feature or something like that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I agree. I mean, such good advice. Definitely always do that and don't like stay in your little bubble at school or or wherever you are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00:

I was gonna ask, has there ever been like a challenge in the competitions that you had to overcome?

SPEAKER_01:

There was, you know, when I was competing in high school, it was more of a, oh, I haven't done this before. Yeah, I don't know how to do this. So um, you know, I can ask uh the PTC members a few questions, but they can't really help me out that much. So um I guess it's just like when I see a feature, I might know how to make it, but I'm not too sure. Just kind of just skip that feature, um, go on to the next thing because you could spend half of the competition time trying to figure something out, and you just wasted all the time. So yeah, I think that was it. It was just more about um once you kind of had an idea how to make most of the features, it's just about the the precision um that that you needed, and that you know, if you're on a new machine that you've never worked before, that can be a bit challenging sometimes.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and you could always make mental mental notes and be like, oh, well, I don't know how to do this. I should probably learn for next time if you want to compete again, right? Definitely.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and that that helped. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Um, if you could sum up your skills experience in one sentence, what would it be? Or one word.

SPEAKER_01:

Um couple words, I think it like career changing. I think it really um it really accelerated my career. So I had um, you know, I had a lot of one-on-one coaching time with a very experienced instructor at SAID. I had one-on-one time with a lot of of journey people that I worked with that I wouldn't have had. Um, so I think that helped progress my my skill set and then as well as as my career, um, you know, making connections at at SAID, making connections um to other people in the industry has been huge for for my personal growth and my my career growth as well.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean, it's amazing to to come from like the first competition where where you got dead last to now being an instructor and going like going through provincials, getting first, going to nationals. Like that's such a cool journey.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah. It's so cool. Do you have any apprentices like competing this year?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So I have two apprentices. So um the workplace where I was at before coming to um Sait Fidelity Machine. Um, I have two competitors that are competing that are from the shop I was at, and they're also Sait students as well.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that's awesome. Are you gonna be there then to watch them?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so I'll be I'll be on the like I'll be there for the for the PTC and and setting up the competition. So I'll I'll be keeping a close eye on them, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00:

Awesome. Well, that'll be so fun again to do provincials and yeah, just watch the competition.

SPEAKER_01:

So that's definitely like a highlight for me every year is to go up to to provincials and and see, you know, all the hard work that the the students put in. Um get to see that, get to see them compete and and yeah, it's it's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's gonna be a good time. What is your favorite thing about your trade?

SPEAKER_01:

Favorite thing. I think it's just like I think it's how diverse it is. Um like I was touching on earlier. You know, you can do you can manufacture parts for aircraft, you can manufacture parts for car, for oil and gas, for plastic injection molds. I think um, you know, if you want to, you could do something different every day, which I think is is really which is really nice. Um I really, really enjoy that um that aspect of it. And and you know, you get to work on hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment every day and make parts that are again, you know, 50, 60, 70 grand. And it's just a really cool, cool experience to see all the technology um and work with the technology and be able to manipulate the technology to do what you want is is really cool.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and again, guys, you should definitely stop by the competition because it's so cool to see these machines in action and stuff. So absolutely, yeah. Is there an area you really like to work in when it comes to making parts and stuff?

SPEAKER_01:

One area I think I was starting to do this a little bit. Um, so the coolest parts I think are some of the downhole oil and gas uh drilling tools. So those are just you know big complex stuff sometimes. Um those are really, really cool. And then, you know, some of the aerospace parts that I was working on before I came to SATE. Um seeing some of those things, you know, thinking about this is gonna be it in in space one day or you know, 30,000 feet in the air is is pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's cool to think that you had like a hand in like making something that big, you know, it's so cool.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, the thanks for sharing your skill story. It was so cool to learn about, especially, you know, with with the journey you had. It was so amazing. And now you're an instructor and a part of the PTC, which is amazing.

SPEAKER_01:

So yeah, I enjoy it. Thanks for thanks for having me on. It's a privilege to be able to talk about the trade.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Well, thanks again, and thank you, everyone, for tuning in.

SPEAKER_01:

Thanks.

SPEAKER_00:

Thanks again for tuning in. We hope you enjoyed today's episode and gained some valuable insights from our amazing guests. If you'd like to learn more about Skills Canada, Alberta, and our wide range of programs, be sure to check out our website at skillsalberta.com. From bringing skills right to your classroom to taking part in our competition programming, there are countless ways to get involved. And don't forget to follow us on social media at SkillsAlberta to stay up to date on our latest episodes and events. See you in the next one.